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Clergy on the Rocks

AI priests, a polarized church, and women and alcohol.

This week on The Bulletin, hosts Mike Cosper and editor in chief Russell Moore talk with David Zahl of Mockingbird about artificial intelligence—GPT-4o and AI priests—and the need for embodied presence and wisdom. Next, they tackle the latest challenge in church polarization, this time in the Presbyterian Church in America. Last, special guest Ericka Andersen joins the show to shed some light on the hidden struggles of women who are alcohol-dependent.

Today’s Guests:

David Zahl is the director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor in chief of the Mockingbird website. Born in New York City and brought up elsewhere, David graduated from Georgetown University in 2001, and then worked for several years as a youth minister in New England. In 2007, he founded Mockingbird in NYC. Today David and his wife Cate reside in Charlottesville, Virginia, with their three boys, where David also serves on the staff of Christ Episcopal Church. He is the author of A Mess of Help: From the Crucified Soul of Rock N’ Roll and coauthor of Law and Gospel: A Theology for Sinners (and Saints). His most recent book, Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technology, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What to Do About It, appeared in 2019 from Fortress Press.

Ericka Andersen is a freelance writer, podcast host, and owner of Pitch and Publish Writing Company. She is the author of Reason to Return: Why Women Need the Church and the Church Needs Women and Leaving Cloud 9: The True Story of a Life Resurrected from the Ashes of Poverty, Trauma and Mental Illness. She has been published multiple times in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post, and more. Ericka is a weekly columnist at World magazine and a freelance reporter for Christianity Today. Prior to freelancing, Ericka worked for National Review magazine, the Heritage Foundation, and in communications for the US Congress on Capitol Hill.

Resources Referenced:

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“The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producers: Clarissa Moll and Matt Stevens Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill and Raed Gilliam Editing and Mix: TJ Hester Music: Dan Phelps Show Design: Bryan Todd Graphic Design: Amy Jones Social Media: Kate Lucky

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